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chii 12 hours ago [-]
completely expected, but still quite sad.
But like hydra, cut off one head, and two shall spawn. It should never be illegal to proxy another site, if the information content from that site was originally user generated. Using copyright as a shield is just a legal mechanism, and i don't believe it is just.
Therefore, it is civic duty for all to commit civil disobedience on this.
nielsbot 12 hours ago [-]
It would be nice if every logged in twitter user's viewed tweets were transmitted to a decentralized aggregation service for all to view freely.
WithinReason 11 hours ago [-]
Same with YouTube -> bittorrent, in my opinion
techteach00 11 hours ago [-]
Why? Let the world yell into the void. Nobody is listening anymore.
georgemcbay 12 hours ago [-]
> it is civic duty for all to commit civil disobedience on this.
While I support civil disobedience, it would be more impactful if people just stopped using twitter.
I suspect this may be an unpopular take, but this late in the game I simply think less of people who continue to use twitter while complaining about how bad it has gotten.
Of course it got bad. And it is continually going to get worse. It is never again going to be that place that only lives on in people's rose-colored nostalgia.
But... they can leave it. The world will keep turning, and in fact will improve.
bambax 6 hours ago [-]
Don't know why this is downvoted. Users need to quit Twitter en masse, and others should not try to read whatever's on it. I quit Twitter two years ago and didn't miss it one bit.
ButlerianJihad 11 hours ago [-]
> if people just stopped using [X]
That’s not how it works, and you don’t understand the Network Effects at work here.
All those groups that use Twitter for announcements need to consider the negative connotations of being seen there, IMHO.
ButlerianJihad 2 hours ago [-]
Honestly, I must personally consider the negative connotations and fundamental sanity of those who refuse to call the X service by a name it’s had for several years.
To introduce even more confusion since the actual trademark holders are re-establishing it anew this year.
georgemcbay 11 hours ago [-]
My point is that people can choose not to use twitter despite the network effects.
I don't not use twitter because I think it hurts twitter. I don't use twitter because I know using it will hurt me.
Any politician/business/service/whatever that only makes announcements exclusively on twitter simply won't reach me, and I'm fine with that. I can't think of a single instance where missing such an announcement directly on the twitter timeline would have changed my life in a significant way.
Won't this lead to even less people looking at the platform? Are they trying to cut off the cultists inside from any outside observability? Doesn't that directly result in less power/influence for Musk?
cyberge99 2 hours ago [-]
Pride always comes before the fall.
Some think Musk bought Twitter/X because of the bots, not in spite of them.
Given recent events and social media manipulation that occurred right before the last US election and the character that has since been revealed, it doesn’t surprise me.
conartist6 11 hours ago [-]
Yes. Since they've made clear that I'm unwelcome, I'll also simply skip over reading their content wherever it is embedded on the internet now.
it's funny. Twitter lost so much of it's power and reach when it went behind a login type paywall. if people can't see what's posted, why post it lol? The super majority of people see tweets logged out. Dead platform.
Markoff 11 hours ago [-]
well, since Nitter stopped working I've stopped reading Twitter posts, it doesn't seem like much information value for me was lost, though especially now during Nepal floods it would be probably good source of videos, more difficult to skim through them on Reddit/4chan, if one is interested in videos of disasters
Leonard_of_Q 9 hours ago [-]
Self-hosted Nitter still works for now, it is what I use to read X posts. You do need an (or, better still, some) account(s) but those are easy to create for now. The account(s) don't need any history, freshly-minted free accounts do just fine.
swed420 4 hours ago [-]
How is using self-hosted Nitter as a 1:1 proxy meaningfully different from just logging in to your account?
cyberge99 2 hours ago [-]
It denies X/Twitter tracking metadata and metrics.
swed420 56 minutes ago [-]
But you're still making specific requests with it from your IP, which will filter into metadata and metrics. It seems like Nitter loses its original value proposition once it's no longer a one-to-many proxy.
Markoff 2 hours ago [-]
thanks, but that's just too much work for the value Twitter offers
But like hydra, cut off one head, and two shall spawn. It should never be illegal to proxy another site, if the information content from that site was originally user generated. Using copyright as a shield is just a legal mechanism, and i don't believe it is just.
Therefore, it is civic duty for all to commit civil disobedience on this.
While I support civil disobedience, it would be more impactful if people just stopped using twitter.
I suspect this may be an unpopular take, but this late in the game I simply think less of people who continue to use twitter while complaining about how bad it has gotten.
Of course it got bad. And it is continually going to get worse. It is never again going to be that place that only lives on in people's rose-colored nostalgia.
But... they can leave it. The world will keep turning, and in fact will improve.
That’s not how it works, and you don’t understand the Network Effects at work here.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49450055
To introduce even more confusion since the actual trademark holders are re-establishing it anew this year.
I don't not use twitter because I think it hurts twitter. I don't use twitter because I know using it will hurt me.
Any politician/business/service/whatever that only makes announcements exclusively on twitter simply won't reach me, and I'm fine with that. I can't think of a single instance where missing such an announcement directly on the twitter timeline would have changed my life in a significant way.
Some think Musk bought Twitter/X because of the bots, not in spite of them.
Given recent events and social media manipulation that occurred right before the last US election and the character that has since been revealed, it doesn’t surprise me.