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layer8 2 hours ago [-]
If something like this ever becomes a practical application on the organismal level, the octogenarian dictators of the world will rejoice.
malloryerik 7 minutes ago [-]
Putin keeps talking about living forever, which makes his nuclear threats a bit less worrisome.
EA-3167 1 hours ago [-]
I’d be far more worried about this causing turbo cancer than immortality in dictators.
King-Aaron 1 hours ago [-]
It might be beneficial if it gives turbo cancer to the dictators, of course.
bitwize 11 minutes ago [-]
It turns out that if you trigger all four Yamanaka factors—yeah, turbo cancer. But if you trigger only three of the four, you can trigger a reversion to the stem cell state without the increased cancer risk.
deadbabe 25 minutes ago [-]
What if we cure cancer with AI very soon? Give it 10 years.
moralestapia 2 hours ago [-]
To expand, we might find out the hard way that having an expiration date was a feature of our species, not a flaw.
card_zero 16 minutes ago [-]
Walk me through it: in order to get dictators killed, because they defend themselves very effectively, we should put everybody on the planet under a biological death sentence, which will get the dictators too.
No, I cannot endorse this.
setr 2 minutes ago [-]
Science moves forward one death at a time
So at least two systems run better with the implicit time limit.
suslik 32 minutes ago [-]
Of course it's a feature; it still doesn't mean it cannot be stopped or considerably postponed.
TedDoesntTalk 26 minutes ago [-]
I’m always fascinated by people who think death can be “stopped” (not postponed, but eliminated). Fascinating.
suslik 24 minutes ago [-]
Is there a reason why it can't possibly be stopped?
card_zero 3 minutes ago [-]
Well, accidents. Inconveniently close supernovas. Something is likely to get you eventually, some few millennia later.
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lilycarranza999 1 hours ago [-]
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dyauspitr 58 minutes ago [-]
That’s a coping mechanism because we can’t change it.
hootz 47 minutes ago [-]
Wasn't death a requirement for us to reach this current stage of human evolution? I don't think it is a good idea to stop it entirely.
idle_zealot 10 minutes ago [-]
Curing aging doesn't stop death entirely. There's still the attrition of living in the physical world. Some portion of the population will trip and break their necks every year.
jeremyjh 43 minutes ago [-]
Evolution of humans by natural selection is already over with - or at least proceeding at time scales irrelevant to our civilization.
Not sure about death being required. It's more that life after reproductive success is not required.
LoganDark 1 hours ago [-]
Indeed; the biggest reason is surely cancer.
lilycarranza999 1 hours ago [-]
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torben-friis 1 hours ago [-]
Eh, we might see some benefit to leaders having a reason to care about stuff 10+ years from now.
Waterluvian 14 minutes ago [-]
I feel like AI has opened a door of plausibility to Black Mirror or Twilight Zone concepts more than any other novel technology in my lifetime.
What if living 300 years meant the entire tempo of human living changes. That we all just slow right down because having control over our aging and when it happens. To be able to decide to extend your 20s… or not. To spend decades in your 30s. How would that change what’s important to us?
axus 60 minutes ago [-]
That'll be the commoners' problem; they'll be planning out how to survive the next 300 years.
deadbabe 23 minutes ago [-]
They cannot survive the next 300 years unless we all survive the next 300 years. A dictator is motivated by having power over others, not being some lone survivalist fending for himself in nature.
yieldcrv 1 hours ago [-]
and the bourgeoisie, a temporary regulation would be needed in those areas of the world to separate the upper class from the capability of the rulers
in western nations where that’s not possible, I could see national bans, but one weak link globally and everyone wealthy will get their treatment there
Loughla 1 hours ago [-]
An undying trillionaire class definitely sounds like a possible future. Not an ideal one, mind you, but definitely in the realm of possibilities.
I'm calling it now, Qatar will be the place that allows these treatments once they're a real thing.
I have to imagine the Uber wealthy are pouring money into youthful longevity science.
selimthegrim 51 minutes ago [-]
The Island of Dr. Ellison
SOLAR_FIELDS 1 hours ago [-]
The world of Altered Carbon seems more and more possible every day.
Bluestein 1 hours ago [-]
My goodness, what a show that was.-
walterbell 10 minutes ago [-]
Co-produced by David Ellison and James Vanderbilt.
lilycarranza999 1 hours ago [-]
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bitwize 9 minutes ago [-]
Because this is the worst timeline, we're getting cell reprogramming used to grow artificial brains to run AI workloads before functional aging remediation... let alone GTA VI.
My nightmare is that we solve aging just in time for the Baby Boomers to live forever.
black_13 26 minutes ago [-]
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m463 2 hours ago [-]
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No, I cannot endorse this.
So at least two systems run better with the implicit time limit.
I don't think it matters, mind you.
What if living 300 years meant the entire tempo of human living changes. That we all just slow right down because having control over our aging and when it happens. To be able to decide to extend your 20s… or not. To spend decades in your 30s. How would that change what’s important to us?
in western nations where that’s not possible, I could see national bans, but one weak link globally and everyone wealthy will get their treatment there
I'm calling it now, Qatar will be the place that allows these treatments once they're a real thing.
I have to imagine the Uber wealthy are pouring money into youthful longevity science.